Lakeland - An ICA Apostle Speaks Out
[With huge thanks to RevivalSchool member 'SoulDan'
for his help].
First, let me start by saying that Robert
Ricciardelli has been incredibly bold and courageous in speaking
out on this issue in recent days. He is one of the very few from
NAR circles who have dared to speak up - firstly on blogs and on
the radio - and even on our own Forum at RevivalSchool.com, etc.
Robert is a member - a "marketplace apostle" in Peter
Wagner's "International Coalition of Apostles"
(ICA). He is the real deal. For him to speak out about Lakeland
is a very brave act indeed. Plus he is a Charisma Magazine writer
and a friend of Lee Grady.
Last week on July 14th Robert was a guest on Radio KGNW -
where he spoke of how he had just come back from Lakeland, and
told of his deep concerns and the background research that he had
been doing. On July 16th he commented on one Internet blog:
"Truth is there are very few people being healed in
Lakeland. I have worked with Charisma Magazine editor Lee Grady
in discovering how many false reports have been released as
facts. These are our brothers and sisters involved in this, but
this move of God has been a move of men with God still touching
some who come to seek Him."
On another blog he wrote: "Charisma reporters and a few
others like myself have tried to get these verified and cannot...
We actually had offered to help, because any news of a
resurrection in my opinion is world news if it can be validated.
But then when the totals continued to mount which led to hype and
embellishment, they began to ask us to stop asking questions.
"Friday night, Todd said that God said there were 1000
people that were to give $1000, and they were to receive a 1000
fold blessing. The one hour drama on this giving subject was so
deceptively evident that it was embarrassing to watch. On top of
that, those that would give that money were able to come to the
platform to be recognized."
Concerning the 'Resurrections' in Lakeland, Robert
wrote: "We have investigated the 20 plus "raised from
the dead" claims as we want to report them to the media, and
they cannot be verified, but were only called in, or sent in from
an email. This is not responsible reporting, and leaves many
questions, which also adds to the claims of hype and
embellishment." [~Robert Ricciardelli blog comments -
The hour-long broadcast that Robert did on KGNW is also
causing quite a stir as it does the rounds on the Internet. On
our own Forum at RevivalSchool.com, Robert publicly added the
"Peter Wagner and Chuck Pierce nominated me as a
marketplace apostle 6 years ago. I threw the title away before I
ever got it. I am not into titles, but I am into functions. The
Lord told us "yes" to engage, and He was going to show
us some truth in the process. Being engaged has given us a great
opportunity to see the good, the bad, and the ugly of the
apostolic/prophetic movements. The biggest thing along the way is
the friends and associates we have met that have a biblical
worldview much the same as we do...
"After this year we will pray about next year and so far
it looks like the Father is giving us a sense that we may not to
be a part of the ICA if Peter and the leadership do not
reconsider their impromptu decision to jump into the Lakeland
stream, when many of us warned him not to. It was a mistake to
coronate, when they needed to father and correct Bentley from the
direction he is heading others into. It just put more fuel in his
errant tank. "I am praying for Todd, because he really is an
evangelist, and he is a gifted evangelist. But he cannot go on
embellishing, speaking untruths, hyping, manipulating, shoving,
kicking, slapping, leg dropping, and bamming his way on the
pulpit without consequences. God will not be mocked, and Todd and
others must answer to Him for everyone led astray.
"The biggest thing about Lakeland is the lack of the fear
of our Awesome God, lack of repentance and humility. Many have
exchanged the truth for a lie and chosen experience over content.
Angels, trances, and 3rd heaven focus has replaced the gospel as
a focus... Lord do what only you can do to bring your divine
alignment to all of us in Jesus name.." [-end quote]
I took note of the fact that Robert said that "many"
had warned Peter Wagner not to jump into the Lakeland stream. I
also noted that Robert seemed to be saying that he himself may
leave the ICA over this issue. I thanked him publicly for his
courage in speaking out, and asked him if there really was a lot
of disagreement even within Wagner's own movement?
Robert replied:"To answer your question, yes there is at
least a dozen ICA members that I know of that are extremely
concerned at Peter's endorsement and more to follow as the
nonsense continues. The transferring of anointing, the focus on
man bringing anything but the gospel is amazing and sad.... if
Peter Wagner, Bill Johnson, and some distinguished members of the
Who's Who in Charismania say it is all good, then people just
go with it. Some have begun to see the YouTube and other
information and begun to change. Some go as far as to claim it as
deception, others say it is a move of God that needs
"It is my opinion that it was man orchestrated and
demonically influenced from the very beginning. The worship has
been good and Roy Fields is an awesome worship leader, so many in
the worship and even watching from afar can sense God in the
worship of His people. The truth is God has been engaged in the
worship and has touched and healed some. This is why it has been
so confusing to some. I have heard that Roy Fields has stated a
few times that when the worship ends, God's presence leaves
the platform, and then Todd Bentley operates void of His
presence. That is why most all of what they have claimed cannot
be verified, because it just is not happening.
"We have heard a few people getting well, being touched
and so on. There is a church here in North Carolina that brought
27 sick down there for a week. Some with cancer, leukemia,
diabetes and such. None got healed and most were worse when they
came back. The emperor is not wearing any clothes and the truth
must be known. Many are claiming that Todd is the new thing that
God is doing. The fact is he is still operating in the old thing,
and operating with less integrity and character than the previous
one man shows.
"God is about nameless and faceless people who are
operating without any agenda but the Lord's. Preaching about
the King and His Kingdom, and moving supernaturally after Him,
and as they do, signs and wonders follow. The problem in
Charismania is that they seek the sign, they seek the thrill,
they seek the craft supply quality gold dust, feathers and gems.
They may get the chills and frills, but leave with nothing more
than goose bumps and really little spiritual change. When they
seek the King, the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, you
begin to see transformation take place at the heart level. This
is God's way and always has been... Bentley is just a product
of the Charismatic/apostolic/ prophetic trending away from Plumb
line truth. At the same time the fact is, none of us amount to
much, no not one. But in Him and dying to self and living His
agenda, we can move mountains... The church is getting there, I
wrote an article for Charisma that everything that can be shaken
is being shaken, and this is what is happening in a great way
right now..." [end quote]
Friends, please write to Robert encouraging him if you can for
the courageous stand he is taking.
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